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[00:00:12] club, organization, business, individual, anyone or anything. We've got some stories to tell about. Yeah, and you've got exposure to a lot of the curriculum. I know nothing about one Asian. Probably because you're not Asian. Well, no. Also, it was kind of a short-lived company, right? Right. Wasn't it?
[00:00:46] What was it like? I would say the first probably day and a half was just duplicate of the genus curriculum. It's all this—it was all the same about being a woman. And then the day and a half
[00:00:57] after was about what we have in common with men. I think that's kind of how they used it to bridge. And then the one module I'll never forget was called Optimal People of the Future.
[00:01:10] It was one of the last modules of the weekend. And basically, the premise was if you're an Asian woman, you have the optimal elements of being a man and the optimal elements of being a woman. You can be both masculine and nurturing. And you're an optimal person
[00:01:23] of the world. So that made us feel good, obviously at the end of that. Oh, yeah. Now, I didn't sign up and stick around and do the monthly curriculum like I did with Ginesse. Yeah, that was the weekend.
[00:01:35] It was essentially saying that Asian women were more masculine than most women? I think so, from what I remember. And so what was the justification, do you remember, or the premise of why, I guess, Keith stole it or thought it? We'll never know. I would say both.
[00:01:51] Yeah, what was the trait that he said that was more masculine that you were raised with or nurtured in you that was optimal? Was it discipline? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, stuff around that. Yeah, a lot of it is fuzzy. I'm not going to remember it.
[00:02:04] But I remember there being a module where if it's not cool for women to cry, but Asian women have the ability to hold in our emotions if we want to or weaken, show emotions and be vulnerable. And either way, that's a strength.
[00:02:22] Now, he was saying that because you were Asian or because that was an effect of Asian cultures and indoctrination to Asian cultures? I think the latter. Okay. Yeah, I obviously wasn't there but because I was in sales, I had to learn a little bit
[00:02:34] of the pitch. And if I recall correctly, and tell me if this resonates Sandra, it was also like kind of the stereotype of how Asian children are raised to have good grades and be very like piano lessons every day. There's this very structure, right? Very like
[00:02:50] performance based. And so you don't get to cry and you don't get to have tantrums and you have to suck it up and perform. Yeah, 100%. Which some of that is true but it's like to take that stereotype, turn that into curriculum. Fuck man.
[00:03:05] And extend it to an entire demographic. He's got money on that. To extend it to an entire demographic of people and call it a trait. Yeah, how do you feel about that now?
[00:03:17] Oh my god. I'm actually so glad because the founders of OneAsian ran such a tight ship as soon as they heard all this stuff about DOS, they're like, oh, we need to shut the shit down.
[00:03:29] Immediately all the social media went down, the website went down and they're like, Sandra, you got to take down all your posts. They did a really good job of just shutting it all down and I think that's why you don't hear
[00:03:40] a lot of it or you don't hear any of it actually in the media. I heard very little about it when we were in. I didn't know who was in it. Yeah, it was like a good secret. It was a good secret. It was only available to us.
[00:03:55] Yeah, the secret Asian group. There is actually one woman who is a part of that and Mark would say her name in case she gets out but who's still in DOS and who's still active in Vancouver who I used to coach and she won't speak to me.
[00:04:08] I think I know who it is. Yeah, I think you know. You know also it's manipulative the whole thing because it bends the truth a little bit and it leverages the truth. For what gain? So he's trying to make all of you feel so special, right?
[00:04:22] Like this is like, it's love bombing through your gender and your race. Like you are the most, what did he call it? Optimal people of the future. Optimal people of the future. I mean, if anyone's going to change the world. It's Asian women.
[00:04:36] It's Asian women and it's in your head. I mean maybe it's true even. Well, it's leveraging identity politics immutable characteristics and saying that your immutable characteristics are your assets as opposed to as opposed to being an individual. Wow.
[00:04:52] Yeah, because you can frame all of this stuff as a strength or weakness. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's a great point. You could say because of those things are too structured, you're not. Yeah, totally. You could, god damn.